--- aliases: [Our senses do not reflect reality] --- #philosophy #knowledge #mind #rationalism #epistemology #rationality # [[Epistemic status]] #schroedinger-uncertain # Plato's allegory >Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth. ~ [[Marcus Aurelius]] ![[Pasted image 20210607091833.png]] >The most famous passage in Plato, in which he compares this world to a cave, in which we see only shadows of the realities in the bright world above, is anticipated by [[Empedocles]]; its origin is in the teaching of the [[Orphism|Orphic]]s. ~ [[Bertrand Russell]] All men live in a cave illuminated by a fire which casts their shadows on the walls. >Your first concern is to become conscious of the prison; then you will see that your own thought is continually trying to avoid coming into conflict with the values of the prison. >~ [[Krishnamurti]] ![[map-territory1.png]] >in order to be able to draw a limit to thought, we should have to find both sides of the limit thinkable (i.e. we should have to be able to think what cannot be thought) >~ [[Wittgenstein]] Few people are able to notice this illusion and reveal reality, [[Einstein]], [[Kant]], [[Krishnamurti]], great [[Philosopher]]s, scientists... >But how can you control matter?' he burst out. 'You don't even control the climate or the law of gravity. And there are disease, pain, death-' > O'Brien silenced him by a movement of his hand. 'We control matter because we control the mind. Reality is inside the skull. You will learn by degrees, Winston. There is nothing that we could not do. Invisibility, levitation -- anything. I could float off this floor like a soap bubble if I wish to. I do not wish to, because the Party does not wish it. You must get rid of those nineteenth-century ideas about the laws of Nature. We make the laws of Nature.' ~ [[George Orwell]] ## Our senses do not reflect reality ![[DALL·E 2022-06-18 07.28.59 - Man stuck within a survival machine, unable to discover the beauty of the universe, oil on canvas.png]] >Sweet exists by convention, bitter by convention, color by convention; atoms and void [alone] exist in reality. > ~ [[Democritus]] #todo draw information senses knowledge relationship >Everyone takes the limits of his own vision for the limits of the world. >~ [[Ray Kurzweil - The Singularity Is Near_ When Humans Transcend Biology-Viking Adult]] [[We are optimized for survival not for understanding physics]]. Our senses create a useful illusion to us, in order to survive, but true reality IS different. Makes me think of [[Jed McKenna]] theory of enlightenment. >Your first concern is to become conscious of the prison; then you will see that your own thought is continually trying to avoid coming into conflict with the values of the prison. >~ [[Krishnamurti]] [[Relativity]] is not intuitive, of course, [[We are optimized for survival not for understanding physics]]. >Indeed, the line between perceiving and hallucinating is not as crisp as we like to think. In a sense, when we look at the world, we are hallucinating all the time. One could almost regard perception as the act of choosing the one hallucination that best fits the incoming data >~ [[Ramachandran]] >Darwin’s theory thus makes the testable prediction that whenever we use technology to glimpse reality beyond the human scale, our evolved intuition should break down. >~ [[Max Tegmark]] >There is no true self. Truth and self are mutually exclusive. >~ [[Jed McKenna]] ## [[Plato]] and [[Godel Theorem|Godel]] >Real mathematical truth goes beyond mere manmade constructions >~ [[Roger Penrose]] We are unable to discover [[Mathematic]]al truth, is [[Godel Theorem]] only valid within human [[Philosophy/Rationality/Intelligence|organic intelligence]]? Can [[Artificial intelligence|AI]] invalidate [[Godel Theorem|Godel]]? Or [[Godel Theorem|Godel]] even proved that algorithms can’t discover the truth? >ACHILLES: It goes like this: Two monks were arguing about a flag. One said, “The flag is moving. ” The other said, “The wind is moving. ” The sixth patriarch, Zeno, happened to be passing by. He told them, “Not the wind, not the flag, mind is moving. ” >~ [[Douglas R. Hofstadter - Godel, Escher, Bach_ an Eternal Golden Braid-Basic Books]] Reality is always subjective to an observer. Similar topics Wikipedia URLs: - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plato - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godel%27s_incompleteness_theorems - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematics - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rationality - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_intelligence - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Hofstadter