# [[Epistemic status]]
# Conversations do not scale
>everyone can hear everyone the whole village, and that everyone who wants to speak at the meeting has the opportunity to do so. But all those prerequisites for communal decision making become unattainable in much larger communities. Even now, in these days of microphones and loudspeakers, we all know that a group meeting is no way to resolve issues for a group of thousands of people. Hence a large society must be structured and centralized if it is to reach decisions effectively.
>~ [[Jared Diamond]]
Early humans had small group conversations, it was not possible to have conversations with more than 4-5 people probably.
With the modern age and [[The Internet]], we get into real-time communication with hundred our thousands of people or more. But can we turn these into **conversations**? I highly doubt that. Maybe [[Homo Deus]] will, once he has merged with [[Artificial intelligence|AI]], but as of now, you can't have a **conversation** with more than 4-5 people.
Somehow I see a link with [[Fractal]]s, in the sense that we must build social networks that are composed of many small groups, "self-similar".
## Conversation alignment
Conversation is about finding an alignment between interests of every participant, the more participants the harder to align.
**Conversations do not scale.**