Man begins his journey by spending his days as a scientist and his nights as a poet. At the end of his journey, he spends his days as a poet and his nights as a scientist. ![0cb8fc0e-7ad7-439a-bd7c-811793241474](./0cb8fc0e-7ad7-439a-bd7c-811793241474.png) [[Galileo]] was a rationalist while Keppler was mystical. But they still both highly contributed to technology. ![f65441d9-e9c7-4344-b713-bd9698e64053](./f65441d9-e9c7-4344-b713-bd9698e64053.png) In his book "The Birth of Tragedy," [[Nietzsche]] presents [[Apollo]] and [[Dionysus]] as two contrasting principles in ancient Greek culture. [[Apollo]] represents order, [[Rationality|rationality]], and individuation, while [[Dionysus]] represents [[chaos]], [[Irrationality|irrationality]], and the dissolution of individual boundaries. ![8cfa50c1-e8ff-4d31-8938-07e6ac9315f5](./8cfa50c1-e8ff-4d31-8938-07e6ac9315f5.png) ![9ec5be90-f71c-4e15-88b6-bbc9356b7ef8](./9ec5be90-f71c-4e15-88b6-bbc9356b7ef8.png) ![4406ab9e-d1b8-4c23-99fb-21a69c161582](./4406ab9e-d1b8-4c23-99fb-21a69c161582.png) ![dc74092c-6ced-4590-844b-b89a6f6f1b45](./dc74092c-6ced-4590-844b-b89a6f6f1b45.png) The opposition of [[Apollo]] and [[Dionysus]] can be loosely connected to the concepts of [[Science]] vs [[Poetry]]. In [[Nietzsche]]'s "The Birth of Tragedy," [[Apollo]] represents order, rationality, and the principle of individuation. These qualities can be associated with the [[Science|scientific]] approach, which relies on analysis, logical thinking, and systematic understanding of the natural world. ![22cd178e-dac7-4a2c-b44f-a963d265dca4](./22cd178e-dac7-4a2c-b44f-a963d265dca4.png) ![c0af3cd2-04d7-4e9a-af7c-f52c61c13634](./c0af3cd2-04d7-4e9a-af7c-f52c61c13634.png) ![5c0eb6a5-75a8-459e-bdb0-6d59d8b36f4f](./5c0eb6a5-75a8-459e-bdb0-6d59d8b36f4f.png) On the other hand, Dionysus represents chaos, irrationality, and the dissolution of individual boundaries. These qualities can be associated with poetry and the artistic approach, which often embraces emotion, intuition, and the exploration of subjective experiences beyond the confines of logical reasoning. ![bf5bdaec-c7da-4e8f-a042-b2fef8937f16](./bf5bdaec-c7da-4e8f-a042-b2fef8937f16.png) ![bc2ce8c1-b1da-46e7-bb9a-3b3e5f320a50](./bc2ce8c1-b1da-46e7-bb9a-3b3e5f320a50.png) ![35c54593-92a7-4d02-bd14-bca8de8ee912](./35c54593-92a7-4d02-bd14-bca8de8ee912.png) Nietzsche believed that both the Apollonian and Dionysian forces were necessary for the creation of truly great art, such as the ancient Greek tragedy. Similarly, one could argue that both science and poetry are essential aspects of human culture, each offering unique insights and perspectives on the world and the human experience. ![5731be9e-a0b1-4b01-8b5e-b86c9800dcf0](./5731be9e-a0b1-4b01-8b5e-b86c9800dcf0.png) ![28cb9523-1be8-4c08-9b11-ddb522358e52](./28cb9523-1be8-4c08-9b11-ddb522358e52.png) [[Karl Popper]] was a philosopher of science who viewed [[Poetry|poetry]] and [[Science|science]] in different yet interconnected ways. He believed that poetry was a form of expression that was driven by imagination and creativity, whereas science was a form of knowledge that was based on facts and evidence. He argued that poetry and science both had a place in the world and should be seen as two separate entities but should also be seen as being interconnected. He believed that science and poetry could work together to create a better understanding of the world and the human condition. He argued that both were needed to explore the complexities of life and to make sense of the world. ![1cf72e40-cd90-4ffa-a42e-81cfcd864b90](./1cf72e40-cd90-4ffa-a42e-81cfcd864b90.png) ![584715c0-8651-4e63-b87f-6a2395022be0](./584715c0-8651-4e63-b87f-6a2395022be0.png) Poetry express what science cannot, such as emotions, personal experiences, and subjective perspectives. It allows for a deeper exploration of human nature and the human condition, beyond what can be quantified and measured. Science, on the other hand, provides a systematic and objective understanding of the natural world, allowing us to make predictions and advancements in technology and medicine. ![ed8c75e6-39aa-4d39-a5af-e396d146415e](./ed8c75e6-39aa-4d39-a5af-e396d146415e.png) ![b60f6827-6524-4bc9-aac8-51ecdecf29ca](./b60f6827-6524-4bc9-aac8-51ecdecf29ca.png) Both science and poetry have their respective strengths and limitations, and both are necessary for a holistic understanding of the world and our place in it. As Nietzsche believed, the opposition between Apollo and Dionysus can be seen as a dialectical tension that can lead to beautiful and transcendent creations, just as the interplay between science and poetry can lead to a deeper and broader understanding of our universe and ourselves. ![35de5cde-218a-4a58-bb5a-2d4e34af9735](./35de5cde-218a-4a58-bb5a-2d4e34af9735.png) ![4128383f-bf41-4df8-8ec6-7e17d108f8b1](./4128383f-bf41-4df8-8ec6-7e17d108f8b1.png) >Just see what takes place without thought. I have a relationship with my brother or my wife, and that relationship is not based on thought but basically, deeply, on love. In that love, in that strange feeling, why should I think at all? Love is comprehensive; but when thought comes into it, it is divisive, and it destroys the quality, the beauty of it. >~ [[Krishnamurti|Jiddu Krishnamurti]] ![8a5a312d-a8ba-44fd-b3b1-24358335b559](./8a5a312d-a8ba-44fd-b3b1-24358335b559.png) ![9c6510f3-ff75-4f72-83ec-6a527fb997cf](./9c6510f3-ff75-4f72-83ec-6a527fb997cf.png) #poetry #art #rationality #love #science # [[Epistemic status]] #shower-thought #to-digest # Related - [[Philosophy/Art/Art]] - [[Templates/Core/Metaphysical versus scientific]] - [[Philosophy/Epistemology/Karl Popper]] - [[Philosophy/Humans/Love|Love]] - [[Poetry]] - [[Science]] # Messy thoughts to process ![[Pasted image 20240327121841.png]] > women are the motive, men the mean > [[Naval Ravikant]]