#rationality #humans # [[Epistemic status]] #shower-thought #to-digest # Related - [[Desire]] - [[Epicureanism]] - [[Happiness]] - [[Relationships]] - [[Alain de Botton - The Course of Love]] # TODO > [!TODO] TODO > [[experienci]] # Pleasure  >So when one understands the nature of pleasure and the principle of pleasure, then what is love? Is love jealousy? Is love possessiveness? Is love domination, attachment? You know all the business that goes on in life—the woman dominates the man or the man dominates the woman. The man does something because he wants to pursue it; he is ambitious, greedy, envious; he wants a position, prestige. His wife says, ‘For God’s sake, stop all that tommy-rot and lead a different kind of life’. So there is a division between the two—even though they may sleep together. Can there be love when there is ambition, when each is pursuing his or her own particular private pleasures? >~ [[Krishnamurti|Jiddu Krishnamurti]]   >So thought is responsible for the pursuing of pleasure. It is not my invention, you can watch it. You see a lovely sunset, and later you say, ‘I wish I could go back there and see it again’. At the moment of seeing that sunset, there was no pleasure. You saw something extraordinary, full of light and colour and depth. When you go away and go back to your life, your mind says, ‘What a marvellous thing that was, I wish that I could have it repeated again’. So thought perpetuates that thing as pleasure. Is that the mechanism? >~ [[Krishnamurti|Jiddu Krishnamurti]]   >A mind that conforms to a pattern of pleasure, or what it thinks is love, can never know what love is. >~ [[Krishnamurti]]   >Q: What would be the nature of a person’s life if he did not seek pleasure? A: He would live a life of equanimity. He would be content and complete in each moment. Though he may involve himself in lofty pursuits, his contentedness and completeness would go with him. He would have abandoned the ceaseless chase. And when a man no longer feels the need to chase, life begins to chase him. >` [[Kapil Gupta - Direct Truth - Uncompromising - Non-Prescriptive Truths to the Enduring Questions of Life|Kapil Gupta]]`   In the past, pleasure was scarce, in the present it is abundant. [[Epicureanism]] teach a powerful heuristics regarding **pleasure** vs [[Pain]].   >Many a Man thinks he is buying Pleasure, when he is really selling himself a Slave to it. ~ [[Benjamin Franklin]]   >From morning until night, a human seeks nothing other than pleasure. In the smallest thing. And the largest thing. All addictions stem from this one characteristic of mind. >~ [[Kapil Gupta - Direct Truth - Uncompromising - Non-Prescriptive Truths to the Enduring Questions of Life]]